How Do You Know If That Was God?
How Do You Know If That Was God?
The father of a three year old was hard at work when he said the Lord spoke to him and told him that his little boy was choking to death. The Lord told him that a small toy was stuck in his little boy’s throat.
He said he rushed out of the shop door, jumped into his truck and raced the mile or so to his mobile home. He opened the door and saw his baby boy sitting there playing contentedly with his toys.
“Boy!” the father exclaimed, “I’d rather you be dead than have God lie to me like that!”
That night at church, the pastor, where I was preaching, caught my eye as the father testified. Neither of us allowed our faces to register emotion. The man still thinks God lied. It has never dawned on him that he might be the one at fault.
The question soon arises then:
- Are some people misled? Yes.
- Do sincere people make honest mistakes? Yes.
- Are there kooks in the Kingdom of God? Yes.
Even sincere people often get mixed up. Did their will, their feelings, or their wants get confused with Will of God? If it did, we may never hear them admit that. Are they more spiritual? God will have to judge. I know of a man who is mad at God. He thought he was in God’s Will and things did not turn out well. So he blamed God and has been staying home from church because he is offended at God.
The frightening thing is when we attach the name of the Lord to a thing, and God never actually spoke concerning that.
- Ezek. 22:28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.
- Ezek. 13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.
- Jer. 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
I do not wish to be in trouble with Him.
I would rather say, ‘It was LIKE the Lord spoke to me and said…”
But that is just me trying to be careful.
Did they mean well? Yes, I want to believe so.
Did they:
- Go by a Feeling?
- Hear a Voice?
- Dream a Dream?
- I don’t know!
Why does the Will of God, to some, always mean; MOVE? Escape? Run? Change Churches?
Some are not careful in Biblical obedience and conduct and yet they can get very spiritual concerning the Will of God. They know assuredly they have heard from God.
In my limited studies in Algebra, it didn’t take long to discover that to find the “unknown”, a student had to use the “known”. It does make everyone marvel how some seek the “unknown” Will of God” while yet ignoring the “known” Will of God as it is written in His Word.
A young preacher in my church approached me after service years ago and said, “Pastor, my wife and I are moving to Wheatland, WY to start a church.” I was surprised. He offered the information that his wife had dreamed that they had moved to a place called Wheatland.
She had shared the dream with him and they both had scoured a big US Atlas until they had found a state with a town by that name. They were sure it was God’s will. They also were very defensive that I had not quickly recognized that dream as God’s will.
The next service, I spoke briefly about Abraham. I said, “And God spake unto Sarah in a dream. Speak unto thy husband Abraham and tell him to get thee up unto a land that I have shown thee, Sarah.”
My message was not readily received by them. THEY were in the Will of God, in their minds, so they refused to listen to me.
I had, prior to that occasion, warned our church of the dangers of coming to me and saying something like, “I feel like it’s the Lord spoke to me and told me to move. What do you think?
It often seems they are trying to pit the pastor against God. In their mind, God has already told them personally, so now it’s the pastor that can’t hear from the Lord.
First of all, when you tell the pastor you are moving, (never asking him ahead of time if you should,) you are taking your soul in your own hands, You are leaving the man of God out of the decision-making process. Even Old Testament Kings included the man of God in their important decisions.
Danger!!
Once the seal is broken between you and God’s man. Once you take life decisions in your own hands, you will never get a Biblical relationship restored between you and a pastor. If you do, you will amaze the law of averages.
This family moved to Wheatland, WY. Nothing ever got established there. In fact, today the whole family belongs to the Church of the Brethren. They’ve backslid. They’ve lost their children too. Yet they’ve never felt better. They are in delusion and don’t know it. They left Wheatland years ago, but I am still the bad guy to them. They seem to hate me and the church.
Headship
The will of God will always include Headship. We can’t be saved without a pastor. I have a pastor!
God’s will never:
- Go around or bypass ministry
- Contradict the Word
- Remove you from your headship/pastor
- Put you in a spiritual position like Hosea talked about. Israel was like a wild ass – snuffing up the wind. Meaning they lived a life without controls or guidance.
- Jude called them “wandering stars.”
I would be afraid to seek after the Will of God and my pastor not be the central ingredient in my search. I would feel safest by saying, “Pastor, I’ve been thinking about changing jobs. (Or whatever the subject.) I would appreciate it if you would pray about that with me. If the Lord tells you what I should do, let me know!
I thank God for every sincere person who desires to please the Lord by being in His Will. I pray that none of us ever confuse our wishes and dreams for His Will.
Attitude is everything. The safest approach with any pastor is to ask, not tell. Let him help you. Then you can comfortably feel and know you are in the Will of the Lord. Like the Apostles said, ‘It felt good to us and to the Holy Ghost.”
This was awesome Brother. I have seen examples such as you used over the years. Everyone needs to read this. The best way I heard to be in the Will of God is to say to God, “I will.”
Pat Wilson
March 3, 2010 at 10:53 am
AMEN!
Larry Billings
March 3, 2010 at 2:24 pm
This is another one of those things that are slipping
from the church. When we remove the guidance of the
shepherd it opens the door to all boundaries being
removed. We are under submission to our pastor for
“HE WATCHES FOR OUR SOUL” and we want him to be able
to ” Do it with joy and not grief”.
Our relationship with our pastor shows our relationship with God. It is all in God’s plan!
Keep givng that “certain sound” Bro Ballestero on these areas that the devil tries to steal from the
church!
Faye Walton
March 3, 2010 at 8:22 pm
That was so good! Thanks for your words of wisdom. 🙂
Kim Ballestero
March 4, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Thanks Brother this time in our lives we must not only listen to our Pastor, but also try the spirits and see if they are of God.I was taught to fleece the Lord carefully and listen and obey those who have authority.We enjoy your blog very much thanks.
Dean Ashcraft
March 6, 2010 at 8:53 am
Great Blog. Sometimes I wonder if I have heard interpretations that are really from God. It is hard for me to hear OVER and OVER again, “You are the apple of my eye. I love you.” I don’t think I’ve read that anywhere. I feel like saying, “Duh!” As wrong as it may sound, if I feel that so called Word of God coming on, I pray that God blocks the interpretation if it’s not from Him.
Any advice on that?
Lani Ellingsworth
March 6, 2010 at 8:58 am
That is a Divine statement, Lani. Don’t block that, Receive it. Believe it.
Deut. 32:10 He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye.
Psa. 17:8 Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of thy wings,
Lam. 2:18 Their heart cried unto the Lord, O wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears run down like a river day and night: give thyself no rest; let not the apple of thine eye cease.
Zech. 2:8 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.
mballestero
March 6, 2010 at 9:13 am
I guess maybe it’s the whining that makes me think it’s not from God, maybe? The God I serve isn’t a whiner. LOL
Lani Ellingsworth
March 6, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Great
Sandra Grimsley
January 8, 2016 at 3:22 pm
I re- read this post. Scripture tells us that God cannot lie, so this man must have been looking for an excuse to butt heads with God. Not a good idea. Lol
I have learned to not listen to every emotion that comes through, telling me it’s God talking to me. I’ve learned to listen to my pastor’s instructions, even if I don’t agree or understand. Pastors know things that sometimes they cannot share with us. It is best to trust them.
And yes, sometimes they have to hurt you to protect you. Just like a shepherd will break a lamb’s leg if it keeps wandering off.
And he will carry you on his shoulders until you are healed.
veridicalangel
January 8, 2016 at 8:47 pm